The name is FAX... ChestFAX !

Posted by Chestnut Friday, March 19, 2004.
Well... that is something new... that never happened to me in the past.

I'm being accused of copying... yesssssssss... some action. Ha ha ha !

See the read more, I break all rules of bienséance.

Yesterday, waking up from a very long sleep, first thing I do aside scratching my ass like any waking man does is of course taking my mail... Bah ! nothing important, 5 virus and 6 spams... A normal day. Scratch scratch...

Then I open the browser and take a peek o­n pnconcept... no drama, fine... and lastly... I take a peek o­n http://www.postnuke-france.org

Hum...... something is strange. There is english in the last comments block. Hum... let's see... it was o­n a news where I told my frenchy members how to put short urls. The files I give are coming from Envolution, o­n from MaxDev and some code from the actual XTE for PostNuke... now what this guy has to say :

dev-postnuke : "It's a copy of dp-ShortUrl's from http://www.dev-postnuke.com

Chestnut, wonderful, you are a master copying :)

Sorry for my english. is too bad"


(Hi hi hi, do you like the color ?)... Now now now...(scratching the head this time and yes, with the same hand) who is this guy, what is this site and what the hell is he talking about ?

I DO ERRORS sometimes but I didn't think I've done any alike. And in this case, the o­nly error would've been to forgot to credit some people. BUT... I check the files, all credits are there... The files were like 5 months old at least and well... nothing wrong in it.

So I answer politly (with a coffee of course) that instead of accusing me stupidly like this, show me something... isn't it the thing we should do ? Starting the discussion so if there is something wrong, we can correct things.

So here I goes : "Nope... 100% sure now... went to your site and I can say that it was the first time I see it. Your mod is for registered so I couldn't check for similarities...

Modifications to the NS-Settings comes from CHTEKK at Envolution (at this time and MaxDev now), same for footer and header... the o­nly thing that I changed was the short_func.php with code coming either from XTE or mtrad but I never saw your dp-shortbla... All files (minus changes) are older than your module (publication date taken from mods.pn.com)... If those modifications comes from Your mod, well, someone took it from you before me and I took it from him without knowing it was coming from your mod.

So now, this leads me to this : Instead of coming to my site accusing me to copy anything, please contact me so we can discuss WHAT and WHY you think I took something without giving proper credits...

Otherwise, your accusation doesn't give me a twitch of emotion and I suggest you do your homework before accusing anyone like this without valid reason or content. I can't give you any credit for coming here and accuse me like this in such a poor manner.

In any case, my reputation speaks for me. I'm always there to discuss and always the first to admit my errors and do the proper changes when it's the case. But give something more consistant than your little lines.

Have fun !"


(I'll always give myself a better color you know... he he) Soooooooo... think I've done my point. I never saw his site, I never saw any files coming from him, even my name or my site is not written in the files I gave (wow, for someone who would take credits for something I haven't done, I sure do a poor job), etc, etc bla bla bla....

I sent him a little email later in the night while picking my nose. I wanted to make sure he sees what I wrote for him. I'm not the tender kind but I tried to be.... gentleman.

Email goes : " Here : http://www.postnuke-france.org/Article428.html Next time, prove your point to at least have something near what we call credibility !That would be the least we can expect from a dev as active as you are making such an accusation. Nice site by the way... ;) Discussion closed for me !Have fun !"

Waking up this morning... scratching my ass of course... thought that I would have o­ne or 2 spams... 10 I had but buried in the spams, there was this :

Email 1 : Don't be silly. You forgot delete our credits in some files :)dev.pnconcept.com ... let's see ... ¿pncUserPoints? Wow! dp-UserPoints... thanks for your code... now it is mine too Sorry for my english :) ¿pncChat? dp-Chat... XD"

Email 2 : " "That would be the least we can expect from a dev as active as you are making such an accusation." We are developers but... what are you? CheScanner? ChesFax? Don't be silly, we know how is our code and you know it too :) Regards. Waisen from http://www.dev-postnuke.com"

Well......... that made my day. (scratch scratch) Poor guy is accusing me again without any arguments and even admits that he could be the kind himself to copy the work of others : "[...]let's see ... ¿pncUserPoints? Wow! dp-UserPoints... thanks for your code... now it is mine too[...]"

He is also stating that I forgot (?) to delete some of his credits in the files... I did a search and I'm don't feel sorry to say that you had nothing to do with those files. That unless he goes by other names, no credit goes to him. scratch scratch...

He's also accusing me to copy the pncChat ( for wich he cannot since he I never gave any files). The pncChat is base o­n the Xoops Chat that is very old... Older than his mind it seems...

Worse... he is accusing me to copy CODE !!! wow... guy is hot don't you think ? picking picking my nose... will probably soon need a hose...

So let's see... Don't you think this guy  needs help ? Ha ha ha !

Like I said, I never went to his site before but now, I feel obliged to go and take a look. (Note : I do not have an account so I cannot see much. Another point for me since all my dev are open to download without registration... AND THAT MY SITE IS OPEN SINCE January 2002.

So... let's see : Oups... browser crash... I know, I know, the comp I am o­n is quite old.... trying again :

OH MY GOD !!!!!!!!!! AND I'M THE o­nE COPYING ??????????

dp-Feedback (looks like my old little FeedBack mod by the name or the 10 others people did in the past)
dp-PrivMsg (Let's make the assumption that he made an Outbox feature just like my old PrivMsg Hack or worse, you'll see later why, that he took someone else work, renaming it and calling his own.)
dp-WebLinks v1.0-C
dp-WebLinks v1.0-D (This low life is even copying the way I name MY work)...

One thing I found that is similar to what was written o­n PostNuke', CAPTION, 'PostNuke-France');" onmouseout="return nd();">pnFrance in the comments, and it was about a trans_sid off bla bla... but the fact is, I can prrove that I didn't took it from him. (picking picking my nose and laughting at my girl's face).

THE FACT IS that anything related to my short url thing o­n PostNuke', CAPTION, 'PostNuke-France');" onmouseout="return nd();">pnFrance that poor guy is accusing me to copy... HE PROBABLY COPIED HIMSELF FROM THE SAME PLACE I TOOK IT.

Difference is that I left the credits in place... NOT HIM (since he is stating that it is his).

From the BEGINNING... this poor guy has nothing to say. o­nly that I copied his code but without giving me any example (cause he don't have any example), I name my work like his (I name my work like I do since 2001, my site exeist since 2002, his o­nly exists since 2003. Note that my Name is also know since 2001 o­n various sites.).

Take that note also : He takes the work of MagicX (pmBox) and do modifications. Hope my dear that you left MagicX credits cause you'll have a REAL hard time to proove anything now.

Well... Done for the moment. Me have a life you know... Ha ha ha !

And until someone points me o­n something legitimate... I'm being accused of copying and I don't ***** care.

 picking, scratching, picking scratching... picki........

Note: See what ego does to the mind.... oh how I like insignificant people that thinks they are better than others... :)
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Re: The name is FAX... ChestFAX !

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by Chestnut on Mar 19, 2004 - 07:13 PM
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Just to make sure my own ego is reaching the sky ha ha ha !

Dear hopeless DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE !

If I take the pncUserPoints for example, Yes, you could say I renamed the mod... No, you can't say it is the same because it was rewritten from scratch and there is not a single line of code coming from the original o­ne.

BUT

I left ALL the old credits, ALL... in the new credits file and the original credits files coming from the old mod. I WASN'T OBLIGED TO DO SO... This module is mine, and the old authors had nothing to do with it.

Everything is there though... Even the name of Mister Z for wich I tried to contact in the past (that was a long time ago don't worry guys ha ha ha) to GIVE him my modifications but he didn't answer (or even cared I guess).

So if you try to compare MY integrity to yours... You sure will have a hard time to do so.

Kisses o­n the ass, giggles, me waving goodbye to you going to attack someone else, Prffffffrrrrrfrfffffffrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...

Here ends my day... Now let's see... wich movie I'll go kiss my girlfriend in front of tonight... ? Aw.. who cares wich movie... Now if she just don't eat my tongue too hard, I'm up for a great night !

Take care !

Re: The name is FAX... ChestFAX !

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by DenisF on Mar 20, 2004 - 10:39 PM
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He's most likely to be a non-smoker, they get like that in the end.

Shame on you !

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by Chestnut on Apr 13, 2004 - 04:38 PM
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I put that in a comment instead of a news... but don't worry, if people want me to put that o­n the front page, I won't hesitate. For me, it's the final blow...

A friend brought something to my attention... something I didn't know at the time of the whole dp-shorttwit story.

On another site, a new user tried to discredit me again in a forum.

He stated 2 things :

1 : The file Shorturl-By-Chestnut.zip was a copy line by line of the dp-ShortUrl.

My Answer : The file Short-URLs-by-Chestnut.zip NEVER existed. If it did exists... it didn't came from me, that is for sure.
Those are the 2 files I've given o­n PostNuke', CAPTION, 'PostNuke-France');" onmouseout="return nd();">pnFrance :
..
http://www.postnuke-france.org/divers/short_racine.zip
http://www.postnuke-france.org/divers/short_NS-Settings.zip
..

The word "Chestnut" never was in the filename..... and never was IN the files.

Two : This user stated that I didn't even changed the translations...

My Answer : There was o­nly one line for the NS-Settings module. What I gave is the french file from PostNuke', CAPTION, 'PostNuke-France');" onmouseout="return nd();">pnFrance's installation and add this :

// Added by CHTEKK for simple urls
define('_SHORTURLS','Activer les liens courts ?');
// END of simple urls

Wouldn't be very bright to put CHTEKK (former envo dev now at MaxDev) if I wanted to take the credit for this thing, don't you think so ? Also note that in my files, CHTEKK is mentioned everywhere. Not me ! I repeat, my name is not and never was in those files.

The friend told me that this user, along with another o­ne AND my accusator... HAD THE SAME IP...

Please............. don't try to insult every webmasters of the world, we're not all as fool as you think we are.

I won't even ask what I did to this poor dude... I don't care. I will o­nly say this :

houuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu SHAME o­n YOU... !

This is far from the "Nice try !" thing, it's so poor and low... What is wrong with you dude ?

What the heck ?!? You have 5k followers, I have 500... Am I a menace or something ???

Jealousy, stupidity, whatever it was... I'm very sad for this guy cause he seems to need so much recognition that he didn't even prepare his little "push the Chestnut off my ground !". He never looked at the files, the facts proves this.

Anyway !... his little solo propaganda didn't worked.

I made lots of bad things in my life... I still pay the price for some of the errors I've made. But I never took the work of others like this without permission or leaving the credits where it should be.

And everybody knows this...

Point done ! This story is/was over before it even began. This is my FINAL dot o­n it.
Please don't bother to contact me to apologize, I'm not the kind. (Guess you aren't yourself anyway).
Have fun with your conscience !
Chestnut !

P.S. : I'm still perplex for his integrity. How come I can so easily proove all I say ?... How come he takes the risk to create fake users to discredit
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