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hvanleeuwen Posted: 07.10.2006, 22:13
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Hi Franky,

As I posted earlier I have restarted my postnuke projects again but after tinkering with the current stable I must say that I am very very frustrated. This Xanthia thing is hiddeous without a manual, it does not feel good.
I have now spent over 23 hours on trying to migrate old .26 templates to .62 xanthia templates and have now given up.

It makes me sad but I am now considering dropping postnuke completly and switch to another cms, it's a tough decision since I have put large amounts of time and effort in postnuke over the past years and really like postnuke.

When I was forced to cut the time i spent on postnuke, about 2 years ago I left a thriving comunity when I look at postnuke now it seems almost sleeping. I truly hope I am wrong but this is how I feel right now, very frustrated and sad.

Just wanted to let you know.

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Chestnut Posted: 07.10.2006, 23:47
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While I feel sorry that it got you to this point, I'm in the impression that you were misled for a few things.

Yes, Xanthia is not easy... but once you get the hang of it, porting a old theme to a Xanthia theme can be done inside a few hours.

When putting aside all the stuff about the palettes or esoteric things like that, in the end, all you do is take the html generated by your old theme and split into the templates Xanthia needs.

I usually take one of the themes packaged and rename it, then I load a module, view the source and copy the parts where it should be.

When done, the big hassle is only the block controls.

But whatever can say, it is not easy enough, that's true. The 0.8 Theme module is simpler and converts Xanthia themes in a matter of minutes. But I don't recall having seen any documentation on this yet.

As for the community sleeping... I was disconnected a little but I know the others weren't. The development is still ongoing...

At least... the dev-list is very active. But since it is not public like in the old days, nobody can see it.

Wishing you well whatever you decide icon_wink



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hvanleeuwen Posted: 08.10.2006, 14:35
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ChestnutYes, Xanthia is not easy... but once you get the hang of it, porting a old theme to a Xanthia theme can be done inside a few hours.


I am sure it is but I would need some information on what to do, the currently available info is just not enough.

ChestnutWhen done, the big hassle is only the block controls.


That is were I got stuck now, I had my template converted, which is basically just an edit of the postnukeblue template and then wanted to add some modules at the top, I put the code in the template, added a position but then found no way how to put the module at the position called TOP only the left, right, center were shown in the pulldown, I turned it all upside down and when I started tinkering with the Block Control in Xantia I lost the default left positioned menu block and have no idea how to get that back, so I stopped out of sheer frustration.

ChestnutThe 0.8 Theme module is simpler and converts Xanthia themes in a matter of minutes. But I don't recall having seen any documentation on this yet.


Does this mean that 0.8 does no longer use Xanthia as a theme engine?

ChestnutAs for the community sleeping... I was disconnected a little but I know the others weren't. The development is still ongoing...


postnuke development has always been slow, but postnuke as is, is already a very useable cms so it should not be a problem. However as much as I love Postnuke I wouldnt bet too much on it's future, there is a lot of competition now a days and that wasn't so a few years back, times have changed.

ChestnutWishing you well whatever you decide icon_wink


It's a new day, I still am very frustrated not being able to find enough information helping me built a simple template, I am very stubborn too so when the frustration wears off I might take another stab at trying to understand Xanthia, but it won't be a long one, this shouldn't be so hard.
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gerkynet Posted: 16.10.2006, 12:40
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In PN.8 Xanthia is going to be used as main graphical motor engine,

but it have some improvements, a easier way to configurate, a better block control system, dynamic CSS,...

You can use themes designed for .762, the only change neccesary that you have to do is change the block tag, because it is changed.

There is a very good documentation about templating & themes on: http://www.dordrak.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=&idx=themes

I don't think that PN community is slepping, it's moving in a right way, as you I was disconnected of PN for a while, but now I'm more involved than before, & really it's a very good CMS, probably the best, the only thing is that for old developments it's necessary to adapt its to pnAPI, it's a little more work but with the advantages to have a development compatible and much more easy to modify in the future.


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